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Progressives Congress chieftain, Usani Uguru Usani has a case for the
ruling party in the face of the biting economic crisis crippling the
country.
Usani Uguru Usani
Usani Uguru Usani, the minister of Niger Delta affairs, has said
that the current economic crunch, notwithstanding, Nigerians would have
been crawling to eat from the waste bins, if the Goodluck Jonathan’s
administration had continued in office, Sun Newspaper reports.
With Vice President Osinbajo’s recent visit to the Niger
Delta region, will it be appropriate to say government is now offering
an olive branch to the region to end the hostilities there?
I don’t know if I can properly construe what you mean by olive
branch, but from the beginning, everybody in government, including the
President have always appealed for calm because the people of the Niger
Delta are Nigerians and they have a right to be listened to. But there
has to be a discussion for them to be a listened to, so it is not to say
finally government is doing something because that will suggest that
initially there was no willingness.
But that has been the allegations, that government is not willing to tackle the issues of the Niger Delta?
Thank God you said allegations, but we know that all of us have
been making efforts at different levels in different directions. You saw
that just after Mr. Vice President’s visit, there was another attack.
So if the Vice President’s visit suggested that government was now
giving adequate attention, what then is your basis for that sudden
attack once again? So, his visit is seen as a continuous proportion of
government willingness to meaningfully engage and listen to the people.
So let the people appreciate this and also convey their feelings
appropriately instead of through destruction.
What were the key projects your ministry undertook in 2016?
For us, every project is key. For those that are ongoing, even if
you put the whole money appropriated to them in this budget, you will
not succeed in completing the projects because of the way they were
handled earlier. But even at that, there are some projects that are
considered worthy of answering to the needs and immediate demands of the
rural populace. For instance, school infrastructure, health
infrastructure and others are in our current procurement which
definitely would be concluded before the end of the budget year within
the limits of our budgetary releases.
So what is the focus of the ministry in 2017 and what is the state of the controversial east-west road?
The east-west road is not controversial. In my view the attention
given to the east-west road is an outcome of the ineptitude associated
with it as a project. If the project had been completed within the time
of construction allocated to it, it wouldn’t appear controversial. But
to find one project taking more than one decade to complete is actually
worrisome and that makes it appear controversial. Well, we are committed
to the completion of the east- west road. Our commitment is very
crucial and that is why it is listed among the five projects for China
African Infrastructure Facility which is almost getting through in terms
of negotiations and release.
I want to assure you that some sections have gone quite far in the
project execution, other sections have not quite gone far, but because
they are all handled by different contractors we apply resources to them
as the budget provides for us. Now, the handicap about the east-west
road is that, even if you give them the total amount budgeted for it, it
would barely pay for the outstanding certificate, it will not complete
the project. That is why we are grateful that government is trying to
look for other sources of funding to be able to get it through.
Let’s talk about the amnesty programme and the concerns in
some quarters that those trained have not been employed. Is that not
another disaster waiting to happen?
When you talk about institution’s inability to engage or absorb the
ex-militants that have been trained, obviously you know that is beyond
the capacity of government because you cannot compel the private
investor to engage labour beyond its requirement. This is why this
government lays emphasis on critical infrastructure which is to ensure
that spaces of private investments are expanded to be able to absorb the
various skills that are gained from our various training programmes.
But tying it particularly to the amnesty programme, the first mode
of the amnesty Programme is to pay to persuade the beneficiaries against
violence that has been the primary thing. And the training comes as a
sustainable Programme towards final engagement. Talking about the
amnesty Programme vis-a-vis youth restiveness, I felt that having gotten
the amnesty Programme paying thousands of people from what we hear,
about 30,000 people, if 30,000 people who are in the creeks creating
tension are being paid, one would have thought that no youth would be
found engaging in that unsavory vocation any more.
So the amnesty Programme catering for the violent youths, so to
say, unfortunately, is quite distant from the mandate of the ministry,
which is intended to coordinate policies of development and has a
functional segment in peace maintenance and security. That segment only
expects us to advice government in this regard and this is why we have
an internal security committee headed by a Commodore in the Navy. For
those we train, we engage them, we give them money to engage in whatever
they are trained to do, be it ICT and different vocations in the
agricultural sector, like poultry, snail farming, fishery, and like GSM
coupling and repairs. So we gave them various sums of money and some of
them are giving us feedback. So there is a difference between what the
amnesty Programme is set to do and the ministry’s mandate. While
coordinating development, of course there has to be peace for
development to take place and that is the only bearing we have on the
issue of security. Otherwise, the various institutions of maintenance of
peace and security are taking care of their roles while we are doing
what we are supposed to do as ministry.
What programmes that affects the Niger Delta is your ministry collaborating with other ministries to execute?
Well, at present we are at a discussion with a group called St.
George’s which will be training youths outside the country and we are
doing that in collaboration with the Ministry of Youths and Sport and
Budget and Planning. This programme is such that agencies outside have
offered to train our youths, and as they set up their business concerns
here in the country, those trained are engaged to work in those
industries. So currently, they are working out modalities and
visitations have been made to some of those countries. And the Minister
of Youths and Sports informed me that the German Ambassador to Nigeria
had confirmed to him the genuineness of that programme because Germany
is involved as well, so is France and several other countries.
The other one is not necessarily with ministries but agencies, we
are collaborating with the Governors on the Programme of the European
Union Support Group on Water and Sanitation. We are partnering managers
so to say, between the state governors and the EU. Only recently, three
of the five states involved have paid their counterpart funding to the
tune of N350 million and only recently I extracted commitment from the
Akwa Ibom state government to pay up their own counterpart funding and
he has given approval to pay up, because that is enabling them to
provide water in different communities in these five states. Bayelsa
paid up two weeks ago and Baylsa particularly showed interest because
they are looking at expanding the Programme and are appealing to the
team to expand and they are willing to pay more to enable them provide
water for their indigenes.
Some Nigerians are saying the APC administration promised change but it’s giving them hardship, how do react to that?
You can be sure that I belong to a political party that promised
change which has installed the government and that party has a
responsibility to talk about the nature of change demanded. I can tell
you that as a member of the party and a functionary in government,
whoever says they are not being given the change promised has made a
mistake. Sometimes you never know what you have until you lose it. If we
had not taken the reins of government, by now Nigerians would have been
seen crawling to feed from waste bins, you may not understand, but that
is the reality.
The change we promised is that we will no longer depend on oil
again, and presently, diversification is taking place. You have seen
Lake Rice flooding the market in December that means tending towards
food security and agriculture also as a foreign income earner. The
change we promised is to see a government functionary being probed and
probably prosecuted which hitherto was not the case. The change we
promised is, as Nigerians are experiencing hardship, people are also
refunding to government what was derived from corrupt practices and you
have heard the government say that the budget will be funded in part by
these funds that are being refunded.
Also, when the President was campaigning as a candidate then, he
said the economy, anti-corruption and security were going to be his
focus. If it doesn’t mean change, to experience that today you can hold
league matches in Maiduguri and people will enter the stadium and watch,
then, what else can change be? That, 14 local governments were taken as
a territory of a sect and now recovered as a sovereign part of a
country, is not change? Even if it is only one of the Chibok girls that
was rescued, it means an attempt has been made and is yielding results.
But you hear many people tell you ‘stop complaining, give us this or
that.’
There are consolations to that kind of demand, nobody enjoys
hardship, but I tell you that, ‘the change begins with us’ is
functioning in government. As ministers, find out how we fare. A lot of
us do not have official cars; a lot of us are managing to pay our rents.
A lot of us make official trips from our meager private earnings and so
what else can change be when we are being exemplary in what we have
preached? Nigeria I repeat is being exhumed from its economic grave and
it can be nothing better in our present circumstance.
Nigerians should just be patient, wait and see, I can assure you
that before 2019, things will begin to improve. In the petroleum sector,
in the past, you have heard percentage increases in fuel and after a
while scarcity will necessitate another increase because deregulation
was being done in selective manner, but today, proper deregulation has
taken place. In December, did you hear about any fuel scarcity? No. This
is genuineness in policy and the outcome is price stability.
Are you confident that by 2019, corruption would have been eliminated?
I’m confident that we will fight it seriously and progressively
too. But I’m not confident that it will be eliminated because it is in
the blood of some people and until they die they will not stop. But we
will keep fighting it.
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